Missing Sufferer's Time cut

[Nicholas]

Apparently the 7" with the album cut (+ dub) is missing from the database.
I can't find it neither in the Kiss Me Neck discography...

Heptones ... Sufferer's Time (album cut) ... Black Art ... JA ... matrix A unknown ... Sufferer's Dub ... matrix B unknown
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q910lXa5D8U

Heptones ... Sufferer's Time (fast cut) ... Upsetters ... JA ... LP 3255-A RRS ... Sufferer's Dub ... LP 3256-B RRS
Jah Lloyd (Junior Dread and The Heptones) ... Sufferer's Heights ... Upsetters ... JA ... LP 3257-A RRS ... Heavy Manners ... LP 3258-B RRS

The following cut apparently features the Heptones without Leroy Sibbles :
Heptones ... Sufferer's Time (slow cut) ... Black Art ... JA ... FLP 8105-A ... Sufferer's Dub ... FLP 8105-B (incorrect in rkr database)
Heptones ... Sufferer's Time (slow cut) ... Island IS 068 ... US ... ... Sufferer's Dub ...
Heptones ... Sufferer's Time (slow cut) ... Island WIP 6325 ... UK ... ... Sufferer's Dub ...

N.

[miketurner]

I do have the pairings listed in RKR, which isnot to say other pairings don't exist.....I'll check with David Katz on the album cut

[miketurner]

Dave Katz can't clear this up either:
Re Sufferer's Time, not sure if that issue on your link has matrix as FLP 8105 (think it is FLP 8105 A and B but don't own that copy).
I have a different copy on the Upsetters (clouds) label with matrix LP 3255 - 1/3256 B but the mix is different on both sides.

UK issue has very different mixes as well.
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is it possible that the youtube shows a 45 label but is actually playing the lp version? I.e., maybe it doesn't exist

[Nicholas]

OK, this is now how I figure things - the Island 7" mix then was probably not released in Jamaica :

Heptones ... Sufferer's Time (this slow cut = album cut) ... Black Art ... JA ... FLP 8105-A ... Sufferer's Dub ... FLP 8105-B (incorrect in rkr database)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q910lXa5D8U
deadlydragonsound.com/v3_records_info.php?id=9148

Heptones ... Sufferer's Time (fast cut) ... Upsetters ... JA ... LP 3255-A RRS ... Sufferer's Dub ... LP 3256-B RRS
Jah Lloyd (Junior Dread and The Heptones) ... Sufferer's Heights ... Upsetters ... JA ... LP 3257-A RRS ... Heavy Manners ... LP 3258-B RRS

The following cut (also on Arkology) apparently features the Heptones without Leroy Sibbles :
Heptones ... Sufferer's Time (that slow cut = another alternate cut) ... Island IS 068 ... US ... ... Sufferer's Dub ...
Heptones ... Sufferer's Time (that slow cut = another alternate cut) ... Island WIP 6325 ... UK ... ... Sufferer's Dub ...

...while the UK re-issue presents two different cuts...
I was fooled by the same "slow cut" added to two different versions in the rkr database.

N.

[miketurner]

Then there's the reissue on Hep Hep that appeared a few years ago with matrix HEP 004-A & B

A side is Barry only
B side is a different (faster) version

[rufftuff]

The Junior Dread matrices on the 1976 Upsetters issue are actually as follows:
A-side: 1976 X RRS LP 3257-A PARK
B-side: 1976 X RRS LP 3258-B PARK